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And meta Erika only ever saw the scene from Battler's point of view too so she doesn't realize the discrepancy. Battler can lie about Shannon and Kanon being there even if piece Erika in reality does not see both of them.

Originally posted by Karifean:(General Umineko Spoilers) That scene is narrated from Battler's perspective, not Erika's. Three people-in other words, three bodies'That is a contextually bound red truth and not applicable to everything just because it's said once.

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Plus It said in Red from Beatrice : 'Of course.

(General Umineko Spoilers) That scene is narrated from Battler's perspective, not Erika's. There is no way for a visitor 18th human to exist because without her as 'the visitor' there are only 16 humans.īy the way, in the 5th episode shannon and Kannon appeared in front of Erika, who has the detective authority, in the same room. What can be denied however - and what ultimately 'kills' Erika when Battler does deny it - is the role she has as a piece even being a possibility. The metaspace only concerns itself with what is a theoretical possibility, and Erika's potential presence on the island is one such possibility and can't be denied by the people in the metaspace. Literally all games up to that point are not real and nobody complains about that. (General Umineko Spoilers) Reality is irrelevant in the metaspace. She is introduced in the game where she is the detective which is a world which could have existed if she survived. Originally posted by Sergent H: Battler denied Erika's existence because.she doesn't exist in the 'original' murder party. Battler's truth denies that very concept even if there was an extra person, they would be the 17th human, not the 18th. (General Umineko Spoilers) Erika's red truth refers to her role as a piece, she is defined as the visitor, the 18th human. Nah, person and human are synonymous in that context, it's just translation fluff anyways, if you cross out the word 'people' in the latter red truth it's more accurate to the original Japanese. This way the word 'person' refer to alive human and there is 17 on this island. There is 19 names with erika and kinzo but red truth of battler only said there is 17 people on this island so it doesn't erika neither kinzo as 'person'.Įrika can say she is the 18th human on Rokkenjima on Red because she is a corpse (human corpse). Kinzo is also described as dead before the game. Plus at this end you can saw in golden truth all the 'death/alive person' and it say Erika fell from the pleasure Boat and is missing. Originally posted by Sergent H: EP 6 Erika's red truth : I am the visitor, the 18th human on Rokkenjima!!īattler/Beatrice's red truth : Even if you do join us There are only 17 people.'

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